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xterraman07
Hood (74 kt)

Joined: Nov 10, 2011
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Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:17 am |
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Here is a never seen view (I think) of Plumbob Fizeau's Fireball
Redwing Apache (Original Coloring)!!
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gerboisebleue
Cherokee (3.8 mt)

Joined: Nov 27, 2007
Posts: 267
Location: France
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Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:10 pm |
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| xterraman07 wrote: |
| Here is a never seen view (I think) of Plumbob Fizeau's Fireball |
Fizeau, I dont know, but a lower yield tower test, YES ! (in any case 1955 or 1957 test series).
Looking forward to see much more "never seen before" test pics !!!
(MANY thank-you for sharing)  |
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sonicbomb
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Joined: Aug 06, 2006
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Location: UK
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:07 pm |
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Awesome, thanks so much for sharing these.
Like gerboisebleue said, without further support it's hard to be positive on that ID. I just got a screengrab from tAB of Fizeau at proximately the same stage and it's hard to call as it's possibly from a different angle.
Fizeau screengrab
As for the second image, what make is meant by "original" colouring? Agreed it's very different from the well known image I have, which needs some contrast adjustment. It's seems more likely that the clouds would be highly illuminated, not dark.
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xterraman07
Hood (74 kt)

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Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:05 pm |
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Yeah its hard to say with the Fizeau shot, I just go by what the photos are labeled by LANL... The Redwing shot doesnt have the color fade to red as most old photos have. My guess is that the photo was scanned from a print that was made before the negative's coloring faded. |
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sonicbomb
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Joined: Aug 06, 2006
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Location: UK
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Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:36 pm |
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From experience with moving film stock, colour does tend to change towards reds, or even purples. But I'm conflicted as the image makes more sense in that that the clouds would be illuminated by the fireball. If you look at most of the other Redwing photos, the surrounding clouds are lit up like jack-o-lanterns. It's hard to say without knowing the history of both the stills, when they were scanned, how they were cared for etc.
Anyone else have any opinions?
edit.
These two shots of Sunset exhibit a similar colour variation, perhaps this related to exposure differences?
Sunset 1
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Graviton
Mike (10.4 mt)

Joined: Sep 03, 2006
Posts: 1307
Location: USA
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Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:51 pm |
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| sonicbomb wrote: |
Awesome, thanks so much for sharing these.
Like gerboisebleue said, without further support it's hard to be positive on that ID. I just got a screengrab from tAB of Fizeau at proximately the same stage and it's hard to call as it's possibly from a different angle.
Fizeau screengrab
As for the second image, what make is meant by "original" colouring? Agreed it's very different from the well known image I have, which needs some contrast adjustment. It's seems more likely that the clouds would be highly illuminated, not dark.
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From where did you get the high res Fizeau shot?
Amazing.
Btw, here is some cleaning up I did of the Fizeau shot:
Stand-alone:
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Rus-51
Sunset (1 mt)

Joined: Mar 07, 2010
Posts: 138
Location: Russia
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Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:15 pm |
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Mike (10.4 mt)

Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:24 pm |
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| Rus-51 wrote: |
| Graviton, great job! |
I still need to tackle the vignetting/border fading problem in this photo, using a multilayer masking technique.
This is what I have of the Apache image.
Sonicbomb is welcome to use it in place of the milky version posted in the gallery.
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Mike (10.4 mt)

Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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Location: USA
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Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:16 pm |
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| sonicbomb wrote: |
These two shots of Sunset exhibit a similar colour variation, perhaps this related to exposure differences?
Sunset 1
Sunset 2 |
It's more about the original filtering. |
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