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    xterraman07
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    PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:17 am Reply with quote

    Here is a never seen view (I think) of Plumbob Fizeau's Fireball





    Redwing Apache (Original Coloring)!!


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    gerboisebleue
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    PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:10 pm Reply with quote

    xterraman07 wrote:
    Here is a never seen view (I think) of Plumbob Fizeau's Fireball


    Fizeau, I dont know, but a lower yield tower test, YES ! (in any case 1955 or 1957 test series).

    Looking forward to see much more "never seen before" test pics !!!
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    (MANY thank-you for sharing) Wink
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    sonicbomb
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    PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:07 pm Reply with quote

    Awesome, thanks so much for sharing these.
    Like gerboisebleue said, without further support it's hard to be positive on that ID. I just got a screengrab from tAB of Fizeau at proximately the same stage and it's hard to call as it's possibly from a different angle.

    Fizeau screengrab

    As for the second image, what make is meant by "original" colouring? Agreed it's very different from the well known image I have, which needs some contrast adjustment. It's seems more likely that the clouds would be highly illuminated, not dark.

    Apache
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    xterraman07
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    PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:05 pm Reply with quote

    Yeah its hard to say with the Fizeau shot, I just go by what the photos are labeled by LANL... The Redwing shot doesnt have the color fade to red as most old photos have. My guess is that the photo was scanned from a print that was made before the negative's coloring faded.
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    sonicbomb
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    PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:36 pm Reply with quote

    From experience with moving film stock, colour does tend to change towards reds, or even purples. But I'm conflicted as the image makes more sense in that that the clouds would be illuminated by the fireball. If you look at most of the other Redwing photos, the surrounding clouds are lit up like jack-o-lanterns. It's hard to say without knowing the history of both the stills, when they were scanned, how they were cared for etc.

    Anyone else have any opinions?

    edit.

    These two shots of Sunset exhibit a similar colour variation, perhaps this related to exposure differences?

    Sunset 1

    Sunset 2
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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:51 pm Reply with quote

    sonicbomb wrote:
    Awesome, thanks so much for sharing these.
    Like gerboisebleue said, without further support it's hard to be positive on that ID. I just got a screengrab from tAB of Fizeau at proximately the same stage and it's hard to call as it's possibly from a different angle.

    Fizeau screengrab

    As for the second image, what make is meant by "original" colouring? Agreed it's very different from the well known image I have, which needs some contrast adjustment. It's seems more likely that the clouds would be highly illuminated, not dark.

    Apache


    From where did you get the high res Fizeau shot?

    Amazing.

    Btw, here is some cleaning up I did of the Fizeau shot:



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    Rus-51
    Sunset (1 mt)


    Joined: Mar 07, 2010
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    PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:15 pm Reply with quote

    Graviton, great job!
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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:24 pm Reply with quote

    Rus-51 wrote:
    Graviton, great job!


    I still need to tackle the vignetting/border fading problem in this photo, using a multilayer masking technique.

    This is what I have of the Apache image.

    Sonicbomb is welcome to use it in place of the milky version posted in the gallery.

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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:16 pm Reply with quote

    sonicbomb wrote:

    These two shots of Sunset exhibit a similar colour variation, perhaps this related to exposure differences?

    Sunset 1

    Sunset 2


    It's more about the original filtering.
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