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    raigainousa
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    PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:42 am Reply with quote

    Please, just watch it closely... the second orange herald video... isn't it just the higher-quality video version of Short Granite?
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    sonicbomb
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    PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:55 pm Reply with quote

    My identification is correct. . Pay close attention to the number, and duration of the PG clouds that form under the fireball. If you look at this news reel clip and listen to the commentry, in the context of Orange Herald it makes perfect sense. The BBC also agreed with my identification.
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    fastfission
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    PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:26 am Reply with quote

    On a non-transpotting technicality (!) the documentary listed as

    "Britains Cold War Secret Weapons"

    is actually called

    "Britain's Cold War Super Weapons"

    http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/britains_cold_war_super_weapons/index.html

    ...one of the best docs on the subject ever made, IMHO!


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    sonicbomb
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    PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:22 am Reply with quote

    Thankyou. Did you mean here or somewhere else on the site?
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    raigainousa
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    PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:12 am Reply with quote

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    My identification is correct. . Pay close attention to the number, and duration of the PG clouds that form under the fireball. If you look at this news reel clip and listen to the commentry, in the context of Orange Herald it makes perfect sense. The BBC also agreed with my identification.


    Wow, BBC-backed identification. What newsreel is that from?
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    sonicbomb
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    PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:25 am Reply with quote

    I don't know the origins of the clip.
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    raigainousa
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    PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:37 am Reply with quote

    Is it this one?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwab3m20Whc

    And what criteria do you used to classify your Grapple videos? I was a little shocked.
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:07 am Reply with quote

    Here are a few secs of new footage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dDwkuVKLhE&feature=related
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    PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:20 pm Reply with quote

    Quote:

    http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/britains_cold_war_super_weapons/index.html

    ...one of the best docs on the subject ever made, IMHO!

    FF



    As already mentioned, those clips of Operation Grapple are from the documentry "Britains Cold War Secret Weapons". The information on youtube.com regarding material of this nature usually isnt worth the ASCII it is printed with. However in this case if you had read the description it would have told you the source of the footage.

    Beuschu, I'm assuming you are being sarcastic as that video contains a lot more than just a few seconds, no?

    Identifying shots especially non-US ones is an inexact science at best. I use photographs of known origins, guesswork and in no small part the opinions of the learned members of this forum and it's previous incarnation.
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    raigainousa
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    PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:52 am Reply with quote

    This is why I think it is Short Granite:

    This is Short Granite:

    http://www.geocities.com/raiga_inousa/shortgranite/sg1.jpg

    This is the bottom part of short granite:

    http://www.geocities.com/raiga_inousa/shortgranite/sgbottom.jpg

    This is the bottom part of the "orange herald" video:

    http://www.geocities.com/raiga_inousa/shortgranite/ogbottom.jpg

    As you see, it is so similar that the only difference was to where you view it.

    This is another Short Granite photo, with key features boxed:

    http://www.geocities.com/raiga_inousa/shortgranite/sg2.jpg

    This is another screenshot of "orange herald":

    http://www.geocities.com/raiga_inousa/shortgranite/og.jpg

    If you would closely look at that, they are again so similar that the only difference is where you view it, and to when you view it.

    That is my thought. Thank you.[/img]
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:57 pm Reply with quote

    Quote:
    Beuschu, I'm assuming you are being sarcastic as that video contains a lot more than just a few seconds, no?


    Ok, it's a bit more than that.
    Cool
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